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Offline moin1900

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Hi everybody

Maybe someone owns this issue ?
Luftfahrt International No.18 November-December 1976 
There are drawings of various Messerschmitt Projects ?
Wildgans, Libelle, Wespe , etc ?
Maybe someone can show us these drawings ?

Many Thanks in advance
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 07:35:54 am »

Luftfahrt International No.18 November-December 1976
There are drawings of various Messerschmitt Projects ?
Wildgans , Libelle , Wespe , etc ?

I've got a photocopy of that article. The vehicles are bizarre and unlike normal Messerschmit designs. Somewhere I read that the article is bogus... the author just made 'em up. Which wouldn't be surprising.
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 06:52:18 am »
WOW COOL ! Thanks for the fast reply ! Maybe you can show us these "bizarre vehicles" ?

Many greetings
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 04:26:12 pm »
hi check out a website called www.luft46.com theyre in the messerchmitt section i think
"Sorry mate, cant pick you up, the Messerschmitt's in the garage"

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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 09:09:02 pm »
Hmm... wingtip tanks... no project numbers... drawings surfacing after the war... thrust reversal mechanism...

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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 09:20:59 pm »
Hmm... wingtip tanks... no project numbers... drawings surfacing after the war... thrust reversal mechanism...

... designs entirely unlike anything Messerschmitt was known to create... engine designs that don't seem to exist anywhere but in these drawings... desigsn that don't make a lot of sense...
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 10:21:58 am »
Please dear Orionblamblam, could you scan and post (some of) them anyway, maybe requiring the Webmaster to transfer the topic into
Scale Modelling, CGI and Profiles
at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,14.0.html
(even not true, this is very pleasant and even wonderful for what-ifers like me, and several of us coming here)

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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 12:23:04 pm »
Please dear Orionblamblam, could you scan and post (some of) them anyway,

Most of them are on the Luft '46 site:
http://www.luft46.com/mess/mess.html

Look at the four at the bottom... the "Libelle," the "Schwalbe," the "Wespe" and the "Zerstorer PII." The article also had a very different, very sad version of the P.1106, which is not shown on the Luft '46 site.

Note that the four shown have "names," not "numbers." Another odd difference from normal Messerschmitt procedure.
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 12:40:01 pm »

note that this "Libelle" look extremely similar to the "Lippisch" glide bomber
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5828.0.html

to http://www.luft46.com/mess/mess.html
the "Schwalbe," the "Wespe" and the "Zerstorer PII." look not like Messerschmitt design
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 12:51:21 pm »
This artwork is based on the articles "P.1106:"



And drawings made from the articles drawings to illustrate a resin kit:


Clearly it resembles the known Me P.1106 concept, but it's a lot different.
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Re: "Wildgans", "Libelle", "Wespe", P.1106: bogus Messerschmitt Projects?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 08:35:39 pm »
Thanks a lot! ;D

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Hi everybody

Thanks for the replies.

Maybe someone can show us the WILDGANS ?
I have heard it should be a big jet-powered transporter or bomber ?
http://www.histaviation.com/Messerschmitt.html

Many greetings
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Wildgans here...

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This artwork is based on the articles "P.1106:"




At first glance I thought this was some sort of unmanned aircraft - the cockpit is almost missed back there in the rear.

Regards,

Greg

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Hi everybody

Cool ! Thanks a lot Justo !

I have read that the Wildgans should have six jet engines ?
Is there also a Wildgans II ?
Any Data ?

Thanks a lot in advance
« Last Edit: September 24, 2009, 03:47:27 am by moin1900 »