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Re: M-1 Replacement
« Reply #181 on: May 14, 2017, 06:53:52 am »
Intersting that no one has brought up Israeli experiance in urban armor operations.  If I am not mistaken they have transitioned to evern heavier vehicles for urban operations.   

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Re: M-1 Replacement
« Reply #182 on: May 14, 2017, 03:03:03 pm »
Intersting that no one has brought up Israeli experiance in urban armor operations.  If I am not mistaken they have transitioned to evern heavier vehicles for urban operations.

Hard to draw up general conclusions: the latest Israeli AFV, inspired by their experience in urban combat, is an 8x8 APC.

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Re: M-1 Replacement
« Reply #183 on: May 18, 2017, 08:59:14 pm »
Intersting that no one has brought up Israeli experiance in urban armor operations.  If I am not mistaken they have transitioned to evern heavier vehicles for urban operations.

Hard to draw up general conclusions: the latest Israeli AFV, inspired by their experience in urban combat, is an 8x8 APC.

IIRC, Eitan is simply a replacement for M113 utility carriers and ambulances in certain units. It's not really clear if Israel will ever develop a Merkava Mk 5 because, unfortunately, Israel seems to be afflicted by the same mentality that had infected the US Army in the 1990s: http://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29665

OTOH... http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/land/vehicles/2015/10/25/israel-builds-first-prototype-future-fighting-vehicle/74346650/

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Sources say Carmel a Hebrew acronym for Advanced Ground Combat Vehicle will not be a Merkava Mk5, nor will it replace the Mk4, which is expected to remain in production through 2020.
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Re: M-1 Replacement
« Reply #184 on: May 18, 2017, 10:58:42 pm »
So one 35 ton 8x8 (Eitan) and one 32 ton tracked vehicle demonstrator (Carmel). 

At the very least, a trend towards lighter vehicles driven as much by design-for-manfacturability/cost as anything else.