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Offline blockhaj

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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2017, 12:26:12 pm »
and also adopted by the Thai Curtiss Hawk 75 N and Chinese Curtiss CW-21
What i never heard that? The 75N used the 23 mm gunpods though.
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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2017, 12:25:04 pm »
Are you sure Justo? I've never heard of Chinese CW-21s fitted with Madsens. AFAIK, none of the CW-21 at Loi Wing were ever completed. That leaves the prototype CW-21 demonstrator. Is it possible that some source has confused the CW-21's main undercarriage pods with gun mounts?

BTW, the CW-21 prototype was flown in China alongside a Curtiss Hawk 75Q demonstrator that was fitted with twin podded Madsens. But those guns were 23 mm cannons (as trialled on XP-36F 38-172) intended for use against Japanese riverboats on the Yangtze.

According to some sources, half of the Thai Hawk 75Ns had podded Madsens ... but, again, those were 23 mm cannons not 11.35mm machine guns.
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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2017, 03:13:54 am »

The thai hawk 75N is confirmed to have the 23mm's.
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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2017, 12:21:39 pm »
I am not sure. My sources about the CW-21 of Loi Wing are not reliable.
It seems to exist certain confusion between the Danish Madsen 11.35 x 62 and the Belgian FN-Browning 13.20 x 99 machine guns that were expected to be used by the CW-21 B of the ML-KNIL.
It is possible that the Chinese, after suffering bad experiences with the Gloster Meteor Mk.I armed with FN of 7.92 mm in 1938, decided to acquire Danish weapons.
I can confirm the use of the Madsen 11.35 x 62 in the Curtiss H-75 N of the Thai Air Force in 1938.
Source: DOCAVIA No. 22

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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2017, 04:00:50 pm »
Thanks for that Justo ... especially the Thai reference  :)

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Re: Indigenous Danish Fighter?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2017, 09:38:17 am »
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