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Offline blackstar

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2012, 10:45:44 pm »
Yes, the black and white one! thanks Arjen.
The reason i'm interested in it is because the solution might resurface soon enough. Can't say more about it, unfortunately.

It already has, multiple times. There was a report produced earlier this year, joint NASA-DARPA (and I think USAF) study that looked into air-launching rockets off the top of a 747. You can find that in the space section. I think the proposal was to use one of the leftover Shuttle Carrier Aircraft.

I did a bunch of articles on the vehicle in the image above that you're interested in:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1608/1

There's even an AIAA paper on the Rockwell proposal. They initially considered a Space Shuttle Main Engine in the tail of the 747, then switched (if I remember correctly) to multiple RL-10s, which gave them more ability to throttle. It's all in those articles.

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #106 on: December 09, 2012, 04:55:37 am »
I thought Iranian KC-135s had the wingtip boom...anyone got good pictures?

Areno,

              Iran never had KC-135s.. if you are referring to the KC-707 with wingtips here is the photo

But that appears to be offset booms for otherwise conventional probe&drogue lines, rather than an example of a true wingtip mounted solid flying refueling boom.

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #107 on: December 25, 2012, 08:15:57 am »
In view of the material already presented in the forum this topic  will surely motivate enough crossposting but I believe that the topic deserves to take their own place.

-A 90's proposal of GE for a Super-AWACS. A wind tunnel model existed but I have not gotten pictures of the same one.



Here is a Model and drawing to Super-AWACS project

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #108 on: December 25, 2012, 08:38:23 am »

I did a bunch of articles on the vehicle in the image above that you're interested in:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1608/1



Very interesting stuff. Thanks for the link!
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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #109 on: December 25, 2012, 04:00:50 pm »
In view of the material already presented in the forum this topic  will surely motivate enough crossposting but I believe that the topic deserves to take their own place.

-A 90's proposal of GE for a Super-AWACS. A wind tunnel model existed but I have not gotten pictures of the same one.



Here is a Model and drawing to Super-AWACS project

Any information on the proposed capabilities?

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #110 on: December 25, 2012, 04:50:23 pm »
Sorry Avimimus,


I have no info.

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2012, 05:21:14 am »
Thanks anyway! It looks impressive. A very tempting target.

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2012, 07:24:15 am »
In view of the material already presented in the forum this topic  will surely motivate enough crossposting but I believe that the topic deserves to take their own place.

-A 90's proposal of GE for a Super-AWACS. A wind tunnel model existed but I have not gotten pictures of the same one.



Here is a Model and drawing to Super-AWACS project

Any information on the proposed capabilities?
I wonder if that was AFTER we AWACS knuckle-draggers finally got a chance to shove a bunch of the design engineers for the "son-of-AWACS" project into the spaces WE had to get into to maintain the system? (@ the 1988-90 time frame IIRC)
 
I still recall having to get an engineer "unstuck" from between the klystrons in the aft-lower-lobe after he "shimmed" in but couldn't get back out :)
 
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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #115 on: April 10, 2013, 03:56:21 am »
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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2013, 06:12:26 pm »
Hi,


http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1992/1992%20-%200875.html

That 747X concept is, of course, the VLCT that Boeing and its study partners produced before Boeing moved on to developing the NLA. I'd love to find a 3-view of it.

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #117 on: April 18, 2013, 09:07:28 am »
I didn't see mention of the Boeing Microfighter concept in this thread:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8711.0.html

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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2013, 09:39:41 pm »
Welcome on board perttime !
And thanks for the clue and linking the thread.
The B 747 carrier can be found there in posts #13 and #28.
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Re: Unbuilt, experimental and unusual Boeing 747s
« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2013, 12:18:00 pm »
Model of Air Koryo Boeing 747-400.

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1/100th Pacmin 747-400 Air Koryo c. 1997

A proposal model of the 747-400 to Air Koryo, the flag carrier of North Korea.  Probably one of a kind, or there might be one sitting on Kim Jong-Ilís desk in Pyonyang.  It is more interesting how Boeing even ordered this model given the UN embargo on North Korea


Source:
http://www.doraplane.com/index_files/Page1209.htm