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Offline coach46

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2014, 09:58:41 am »
Fascinating.
 
As a light fighter concept, it is almost like the forefather of the ALR Piranha by a few decades.

Here some pictures and a 3 side view of the Piranha:

( see http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1279.0.html )
« Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 09:44:18 am by Jemiba »

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2014, 02:39:18 am »
After quite some search I have recently obtained Geroges Bridel's book  "Schweizerische Strahlflugzeuge und Strahltriebwerke". Interesting stuff, indeed! Interesting also that actually all Swiss aircraft constructors and manufacturers failed in the business - although some had really good ideas (and others rather not). Naturally with the one exception which is Pilatus Aircraft.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #77 on: December 20, 2014, 09:19:16 am »
... Interesting also that actually all Swiss aircraft constructors and manufacturers failed in the business... 

From what I know, it weren't actually the manufacturers who failed, but the Swiss procurement
policy !
And although the Swiss are considered to be very enterprising, especially during those times it
would have been very difficult to sell an aircraft on the international market, that wasn't put into
service by the airforce of the manufacturing country itself, I think. Another example for an aircraft
that may have achieved a better commercial success, perhaps is the Folland Gnat.
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2016, 08:06:31 am »
Amazing stuff. Considering that the Swiss aircraft industry's most "modern" aircraft in WW2 was the C-36 it is really surprising what step they inteded to take only shortly after the war. Unfortunately all those efforts ended in nothing than tworemainng prototypes and the bright yellow "Arbaléte" in the transport museum in Luzern. Said aircraft is at present not hanging from the ceiling but has been lowered to the ground - Last weekend I took some photos last which may be of interest for you:


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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2016, 07:54:43 pm »
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing them with us.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2016, 08:10:23 pm »
Ditto. I've always been intrigued by this bizarre bird. thanks! :D
All modern aircraft have four dimensions: span, length, height and politics.   TSR.2 got the first three right - Sir Sydney Camm

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #81 on: April 12, 2016, 04:26:25 am »
Thank you Kuno.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2017, 12:06:47 pm »
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about the P-48, swiss 4 engined jet fighter with 4 Sulzer D-45 engines
IT's from a book called: Der Schweizer P-16 by Hanspeter Strehler
If anyone happens to have something about it, i am burning to know more about it.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2017, 04:35:49 am »
Great find Mizutayio,

it's new for me,and nothing about it in the book, Bridel-Schweizerische Starhlflugzeug und-
triebwerke

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2017, 10:40:33 am »
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about the P-48, swiss 4 engined jet fighter with 4 Sulzer D-45 engines
IT's from a book called: Der Schweizer P-16 by Hanspeter Strehler
If anyone happens to have something about it, i am burning to know more about it.

Can you tell us about the date of this project,we know the FFA last famous design is P-26.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #85 on: July 17, 2017, 05:11:59 am »
Maybe related to AFU company ?.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #86 on: July 17, 2017, 06:04:53 am »
The Image says September 1947.

In addition the image mentions a couple of things:
Engines: 4x Sulzer D45
The fact that it has 6 guns, likely 6x 20mm guns considering the timeframe and the fact that it's likely connected to the P-25
And if we take a look at the Stollen image, it could also be easy to calculate the exact dimensions.
However i'm missing crucial information such as weight, top speed, stall speed etc.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #87 on: July 17, 2017, 10:44:09 am »
Thank you Mizutayio,

but by that time there was no P-16,and the series itself was not suitable to this period,
maybe it came from F + W company ?.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #88 on: July 17, 2017, 11:09:15 am »
It clearly was from FFA, as they were the only ones using the P-xx Designation, EFW aka. F+W used N-xx designations.

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Re: Postwar fighter projects from Switzerland (Schweiz / Suisse)
« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2017, 11:15:07 am »
It clearly was from FFA, as they were the only ones using the P-xx Designation, EFW aka. F+W used N-xx designations.

I know that Mizutayio,but the year makes me confuse,I suggest the company had two series
from P ?.