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Offline ucon

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 12:34:14 pm »
Hi to all!
More info about unknown Ilyushin Il-52 flying wing bomber: www.avicopress.ru
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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 08:03:19 pm »
and a wooden model
Lark told me "the type is MSh, a twinboom development of the Shturmovik" and it is true the fins look a lot like 1940-style. Do you know the approximative date of this model/project? And is it twin-engined?
Thanks.

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2008, 01:22:00 pm »
Jozef and Konstantin,

I'm a little confused: Il-52-1-1.jpg blueprint shows four jet engines, but in the Il-52-2-2.jpg artwork it looks more like only two jet nozzles one above the other.  ???

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2008, 01:30:51 pm »
Thomas, four engines

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2008, 02:18:07 pm »
Jozef,

Thank you for the detail. Now I can go to bed and sleep tight  ;) .

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2008, 08:16:15 pm »
and a wooden model
Lark told me "the type is MSh, a twinboom development of the Shturmovik" and it is true the fins look a lot like 1940-style. Do you know the approximative date of this model/project? And is it twin-engined?
Thanks.
According to
http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/faq/sov_mil.txt
Ilyushin MSh is a design 1942. "MSh, Ilyushin:  Design for a single-seat attack aircraft with the engine behind the pilot. Not built. 1942."
So MSh-2 may be before 1945? (unsure) ???

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2008, 05:14:35 am »
MSh-2 for me in the same way either as for Tophe absolute (and pleasing) news. 
More info please. (If possible)

If allow.
MSh  Shturmovik (22.07.1942)
Engine AM-38  (1600 hp)
Area wing 41,50m 2
Weights loaded  6000kg
Armament  1 x 37 (40) ShFK-37 by Shpital’nyi or NS-37
                   2 x 20 (200) ShVAK
                   2 x 7,62 (1500) ShKAS

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2008, 07:32:49 am »

      Am I wrong in disagreeing with this being called a 'flying wing'?


Hi to all!
More info about unknown Ilyushin Il-52 flying wing bomber: www.avicopress.ru
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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2008, 04:10:48 pm »
Hi to all.
Il-18-1 - very first soviet VIP-liner.
More info see in www.avicopress.ru

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2008, 08:06:03 pm »
Politically interesting... Soviet VIP in a luxury cabin seems a nonsense, as this is looking like capitalism or aristocracy and not at all the communist's people common happiness. Such technical details prove the official speech was full of lies, alas. Marx was as naive as Jesus Christ, human beings are not so good to share, so... ingineers obeyed the practical requirements, no guilt on their side. ;)

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2008, 09:26:41 pm »
Hm, I can only see hard working members of the communist party, serving
the hard working soviet people and for this purpose, they of course were given,
what they essentially need to do their job.  ;D
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2008, 11:40:59 pm »
Politically interesting... Soviet VIP in a luxury cabin seems a nonsense, as this is looking like capitalism or aristocracy and not at all the communist's people common happiness. Such technical details prove the official speech was full of lies, alas. Marx was as naive as Jesus Christ, human beings are not so good to share, so... ingineers obeyed the practical requirements, no guilt on their side. ;)

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2008, 10:31:34 am »
Politically interesting... Soviet VIP in a luxury cabin seems a nonsense, as this is looking like capitalism or aristocracy and not at all the communist's people common happiness. Such technical details prove the official speech was full of lies, alas. Marx was as naive as Jesus Christ, human beings are not so good to share, so... ingineers obeyed the practical requirements, no guilt on their side. ;)

Eh, I do find it very surprising that there would be a specialized VIP aircraft (and though many Soviet and PRC leaders would end up having VIP aircraft, they were pretty austere especially by Western standards - not to mention it seems like a high percentage of Communist leaders are afraid to fly!) I suppose it could be configured in a manner similar to a DC-4.
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2009, 10:52:12 am »
Hi all!
Today is regional prop-liner Il-116.

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Re: Ilyushin Unbuilt Projects
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2010, 05:52:59 pm »
Hi, guys
Two more Il-56 bomber projects
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