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Offline J_Matthews129

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Martin XB-51
« on: June 17, 2017, 09:02:32 am »
Hello all!  The XB-51 has long been one of my favorite experimental aircraft.  It's one of two planes for which I've made tribute/heritage artwork, which I'd like to share with you here.

Please come visit my website at: https://onetwentynineblog.wordpress.com/ and you can read a bit of the plane's history and see some of the process involved in creating my artwork. 

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2017, 10:35:39 am »
Wow!

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2017, 12:48:18 pm »
wonderful renderings
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2017, 10:04:55 pm »
Thank you both very much!  I'm going to complete the camouflage texture at some point.  It needs to look a bit dirtier/grungier.  The markings were a total "what if", of course.  The tail codes and nose art were from the 13th Bomb Squadron, which had flown combat missions in Vietnam.  The nose are was actually cribbed from their B-26 Invaders, but I thought I'd carry it over to these ships.  I was imagining what the B-51 might have looked like had it entered the inventory instead of the B-57 Canberra.  I picked the 13th because they had flown the Canberra, which won out over the XB-51, and because they're currently flying B-2s out of Whiteman AFB in my home state of Missouri.  I'm glad you both enjoyed the renderings so much.  Here are a couple more.  I put others in a gallery on my website, if anyone wants to see them.

Thanks again!

   
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 02:11:35 pm »
Nice work!
Regarding the Vietnam era images, at some point after commencing operations (I'll have to check my references for when) the 13th (and 8th) BS switched to black undersurfaces, as they were mainly operating at night . . .

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2017, 05:24:16 pm »
Hi Robin,

Thanks for the compliment.  The 13th and the 8th were definitely flying B-57s with black undersides.  This is all a matter of artistic license, of course, and while the markings and nose art do, in a way, pay some tribute to the 13th, it's totally fictitious since they obviously never flew 51s. 

Just a very big "what if?". 

I had actually created texture maps for the plane with a black underside and gray.  I decided the gray looked better (to me, anyway), so that's the way I kept it.  If I had rendered a B-57 of the 13th, the camo scheme would be totally authentic, believe me  :D

Thanks so much for taking a look, and your kind compliments.

All the best,

-John

Nice work!
Regarding the Vietnam era images, at some point after commencing operations (I'll have to check my references for when) the 13th (and 8th) BS switched to black undersurfaces, as they were mainly operating at night . . .

cheers,
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 07:41:45 am »
This is a 36x12 profile illustration I made for the XB-51:



If anyone might be interested, this is available as a print here:
https://www.zazzle.com/martin_xb_51_profile_poster-228957087028356023

I actually ordered one of these for myself so I could gauge the quality of the prints they were making using my artwork.  Excellent print quality on the semi-gloss poster paper I chose.  Time from order to delivery was eight days (one of which was a holiday).   
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 12:32:56 pm »
Impressive
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 01:11:18 pm »
I have always wondered why the XB-51 fuselage is so large.  There is more than enough volume for fuel and bomb load so what was the rest of it for? 

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 02:30:04 pm »
Love that aircraft.

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2017, 03:21:02 pm »
I have always wondered why the XB-51 fuselage is so large.  There is more than enough volume for fuel and bomb load so what was the rest of it for?

Main gear, rotary bay, and an engine in the fuselage (and fuel, fuel, and more fuel for the thirsty turbojets - only had a little over half the combat radius of a B-57!)

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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 06:36:03 am »
Impressive

Thank you!  Very interesting web site you have.  Haven't had time yet to sit down and read your articles, but I plan on doing so soon.  Submarines always have fascinated me.
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2017, 06:57:36 am »
I have always wondered why the XB-51 fuselage is so large.  There is more than enough volume for fuel and bomb load so what was the rest of it for?

Hi Ray!  Every military aircraft I've ever seen seems as though it's 2X to 3X smaller on the inside.  If you were able to enter one of these you'd see there's no room for anything.  One pilot, one LORAN operator, guns, ammunition, fuel (not enough of that, since the B-57 carried much more and this was a thirsty plane to begin with), bomb load, avionics, inboard turbojet and intake system... Here's an interior arrangement drawing:



They could have made it bigger, in fact, to have carried more fuel.  Couldn't carry fuel in the wings since they were variable incidence and were able to move. 

Thanks for looking here!
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Re: Martin XB-51
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2017, 10:34:30 am »
J_Matthews129  Thanks for your response.  It does appear they used all available space in the fuselage.  Didn't realize it had a variable incidence wing.  I have some up close experience with F-105's, F-4's and B-52's.  All were well stuffed with stuff.  (Stuff is a technical term.)