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Offline fredymac

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Solar Probe Plus
« on: March 01, 2017, 09:41:28 am »
If someone already has an existing thread, please move this there.

Launch is scheduled for summer of 2018 unless there have been snags since this news update last July.
http://www.jhuapl.edu/newscenter/pressreleases/2016/160714.asp

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 12:33:36 pm »
Next flight up for the Delta IVH & only the second non-classified civilian flight for the launcher since it has been in regular service after the Orion boilerplate test flight.

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 02:24:32 pm »
I think that Solar Probe was an idea first proposed back in the 1950s, although it could have been 1964. It took a long time for a bunch of things to happen to make it possible. That included technology development, but also time for enough people to declare that it was important to do.

The concepts have evolved a lot. Back around 2006 or so the concept for Solar Probe involved several RTGs (nuclear batteries) because they did not know how to use solar panels that close to the sun. There was some technology development that enabled them to come up with high temperature systems so they could do the mission with solar.

If you want to see some clever design, look into the design for the solar panels on SP+. The panels actually retract as they get close to the sun, but they have small tips that still stick out a little bit to provide some power.

Offline Michel Van

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 12:33:45 am »
There were allot solar probes proposals in 1960s and 1970s

Most used RTGs (nuclear batteries) because the detour to get to sun via Jupiter !
there it get sling shot by Jupiter gravity toward the sun.
after a 5 year trip the probe would burn up as it approach Sun surface 
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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 03:50:11 am »
Renamed to "Parker Solar Probe"


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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 06:11:05 am »
I was hoping for something cool like "Sundiver."

Offline TomS

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 07:23:05 am »
I was hoping for something cool like "Sundiver."

Sundiver has some horrible thermodynamics.  (The "refrigerator laser" is a nonsense concept, basically.) 

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2017, 08:55:32 am »
Before someone ask "Sundiver" ?

That's from Sci-fi Novel by David Brin
were manned spacecraft "Sundiver" work on sun surface for explore the "sun-ghosts"
they use "refrigerator laser" to cool down the Spacecraft

"refrigerator laser" are used in physics experiment
were atomic and molecular samples are cooled down to near absolute zero by the interaction with laser beam.
it was proposed several time as cooling system for spacecraft, but no working prototype yet.
biggest problem is to  upend the machinery so exterior is cooled not the internal core..

source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cooling
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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 02:04:01 pm »
Hi,

Slightly off topic so please be kind for this parenthesis.
John Mastin, in 1909, devised the first "concept" of a flying machine plunging through the Sun: an airship.
And even further back, right in the middle of the 17th century, Savien Cyrano de Bergerac also devised a conceptual crystal-like or glass-looking spaceship to visit the Sun.
The English translation exhibits a remarkable plate (see attachment) which is still barely known, and reprinted in Dream Machines.

Well, just my two cents.

And yes, again, I do know this is slightly off topic. But these very old advanced propulsion and exploratory concepts found in early sci-fi are part of a pet project I've pursued over the last 30 years. And I couldn't help posting something about that here.

So… just enjoy.

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Re: Solar Probe Plus
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 10:36:48 am »
200 km per second. Whew. Fastest man made object ever.
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