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Offline hesham

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Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« on: December 31, 2016, 03:30:56 am »
Hi,

also I found this twin engined canon-fighter or a combat airplane Model,it was from
USA,maybe it was from Bell ?,who can help ?.

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201939%20010.pdf

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2016, 06:06:08 am »
There are certainly some similarities with the Bell Airacuda so it may possibly be one of Robert J Wood's designs. Unfortunately I cannot find a photograph of him to compare, does anyone have a copy of Putnam's Bell Aircraft since 1935?

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 07:10:12 am »
Thank you Schneiderman,

and from the same source.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2016, 07:56:46 am »
Maybe it was Bell Model-17 ?.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2017, 02:28:54 am »
Looks like it was a design related to the Airacuda.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2017, 04:03:22 am »
Looks like it was a design related to the Airacuda.

That's right Sherman,

and the man who in the picture was Lawrence Bell as I guess.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2017, 11:25:54 am »
About that Bell Model 17 suggestion. As lark has noted, the Model 17 attack bomber was to be a fairly straightforward Airacuda derivative with tractor engines (Lycomings, in contrast with the Model 9's tractor Allisons). So, we would expect to see the YFM-1's narrow, oval-section fuselage.

Instead, that l'Ala d'Italia photo shows an aircraft with a circular-section fuselage (or close to it). Perhaps this 'cannon fighter' was more closely related to the Bell Model 10 attack aircraft?

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2017, 11:35:35 am »
I'm not sure it is Bell in the photograph. In 1939 he would have been 45 years old and the man in the photo looks a lot younger, in fact about the age that Bell was in that 1912 photo

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 01:11:19 pm »
Hi,

I agree with my dear Apophenia,and I suspected in that at first,maybe it was Bell Model-9
or Model-10 ?.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2017, 02:22:57 pm »
Lawrence Bell is the man in the light coloured coat, third from the right. Definitely not the same man as the one holding the model

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2017, 11:51:41 pm »
Mmm...De Seversky, maybe?
Here's a pic of him in 1942. If that pic was taken in the late 30s...
« Last Edit: January 01, 2017, 11:54:37 pm by CiTrus90 »
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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2017, 12:34:38 am »
Possible.
Hesham's original photo is credited to the A.C.M.E, but I cannot find who they were. Perhaps it should say A.S.M.E, the American Society of Mechanical Engineers.
The solution to this problem is going to be found in a US magazine, the article is certain to have been copied from a US source. Maybe in Aviation, Popular Flying or something like that

EDIT. On second thoughts A.C.M.E is probably just Acme, the US press agency.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2017, 11:24:12 pm by Schneiderman »

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2017, 07:13:03 am »
Hi all,

please note the similarity between Lawrence Bell in Putnam book and this picture,some
people still keep their young appearance up to 50.

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2017, 08:09:45 am »
No Hesham, look at this photo of Larry Bell from 1941.
The man in the original photo might be Bob Wood, if this is a Bell project, but we would need a photo from that time to be sure.
Let us not jump in and assume this is a Bell project yet, best to look for the original article in a US magazine

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Re: Twin Engined Canon-Fighter Model to ID
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2017, 01:16:39 pm »
Hi,

I check from the book; American Secret Projects: Fighters, Bombers and Attack Aircraft 1937-1945,
but nothing at all.