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Offline sferrin

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2016, 06:55:46 am »
hmm, how about some hypergolic rocket fuel then? Aerozine 50?

It's the noise from combustion that's the problem.
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2017, 11:19:17 am »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-m-a-softbank-group-idUSKBN19001P

It looks like Google's parent company, Alphabet sold off Boston Dynamics to a Japanese telecommunications firm. I really wished an American company made the purchase, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin etc. 

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2017, 12:06:51 pm »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-m-a-softbank-group-idUSKBN19001P

It looks like Google's parent company, Alphabet sold off Boston Dynamics to a Japanese telecommunications firm. I really wished an American company made the purchase, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin etc. 

 :-\

Well, there goes the US's best bet.
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2017, 03:34:02 pm »
Boston Dynamics is good at one thing (leggedmobility) that may not be terribly important to operational robotics in the near term.  And they're far from  the only people doing it, they just get good PR.

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2017, 10:35:09 pm »
Boston Dynamics is good at one thing (leggedmobility) that may not be terribly important to operational robotics in the near term.  And they're far from  the only people doing it, they just get good PR.

Well, apparently someone thinks they're the best in the biz at robots with tentacles. Or why else would the Japanese have bought 'em?
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2017, 11:37:24 pm »
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2017, 08:53:41 am »
Agree w/ TomS and Bostonites will always need competition (hopefully internal Japanese corporate subsids) to check/vector their arrogance.

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2017, 10:13:12 am »
Agree w/ TomS and Bostonites will always need competition (hopefully internal Japanese corporate subsids) to check/vector their arrogance.

Arrogance?  Why?  Because they're the obvious leaders it must follow they are arrogant? 
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2017, 10:32:21 am »
Boston Dynamics developed their technology over the course of many years with principal funding from the US military (DARPA, USMC, and Army).  This was a rare case of long term support for a technology whose eventual mastery would enable mechanized logistics support over terrain where wheeled transport just can't cope.  They have finally reached a point where power supply is the main limitation.

It is the near animal like dexterity of their robots which has generated the "PR" status of the company rather than any advertising budget to the extent they even have one.  Any other company or institution that displayed a similar capability would garner the same attention.

I always wondered to what extent their technology developed by US military financing was subject to ITAR restrictions.  Softbank is something of an investment house and hopefully will not cannibalize the company for its technology.  Before Softbank, Toyota had been mentioned as the prospective buyer but Toyota would certainly have been interested in transferring the technology in-house.  I am hoping that ITAR issues are at play and that Softbank will resume the practice of letting Boston Dynamics pursue military R&D funding to keep the technology moving forwards.

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2017, 11:01:40 am »
Agree w/ TomS and Bostonites will always need competition (hopefully internal Japanese corporate subsids) to check/vector their arrogance.

Arrogance?  Why?  Because they're the obvious leaders it must follow they are arrogant?

Have you ever to Boston
 talked to academics etc there.
The idea the soldier technology is dependent on that state is a travesty.

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2017, 02:05:52 pm »


In the part of the video where the robot is running and jumping freely, watch out for the high technology camera tracking system . . .   ::)

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2017, 03:24:03 pm »
For the time & $ the US should be farther ahead.


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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2017, 11:45:13 am »
Boston Dynamics is good at one thing (leggedmobility) that may not be terribly important to operational robotics in the near term.  And they're far from  the only people doing it, they just get good PR.

Well, apparently someone thinks they're the best in the biz at robots with tentacles. Or why else would the Japanese have bought 'em?
They were bought because they were for sale...all the other companies involved in this line of work are safely tucked up under the wings of big companies, Bosch, Toyota, PAL robotics, FESTO etc etc

As was said people talk about Boston dynamics because BD has the best PR..That's not to take away from them, they are very good but they are not some so far beyond everyone else robotics power hosue.

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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2017, 11:50:58 am »
For the time & $ the US should be farther ahead.


The US doesn't overwhelming pump cash into robotics...hell the EU's Horizon 2020 programme alone has a robotics budget of 700 million Euros (almost 3 billion when you add in the industrial involved)
And that's not even what individual countries do.
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Re: Boston Dynamics Big Dog and other military transport robots
« Reply #74 on: June 16, 2017, 11:37:25 pm »
BD was left rudderless after going into Google because the main guy (Rubin) who was assembling a team of extraordinary magnitude suddenly left. Then there was the infighting between BD software guys and their handcrafted code, and Google going all in on machine learning which would have meant throwing away years of code and starting over (would have been worth it but...) which reflects a common trope of software development (pets/cattle).

The more important part of this deal is Shaft, who were developing superior electric actuator tech. Integrating that more into BD frames, rather than pneumatic/hydraulic, would have done wonders.

Killer app is BD's Handle frame robot, for last 100m package delivery when paired with autodriving parcel trucks acting a roving neighborhood motherships for the robots. Roll when you can, walk when you can't, get it to figure out how to push elevator buttons and you have the perfect last mile deliverybot, which in japan would be huge.