Supermarine Seagull (Spec.12/40)-Development & Prototypes

slava_trudu · 6 July 2010

I Need help in getting some photos, drawings of this amfibian

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best regards
Alexander
[aka slava_trudu]

flying-finn · 11 November 2010

Supermarine's Seagull was an attempt to replace the antiquated Sea Otter and Walrus biplane amphibians. With variable-incidence wing and a Rolls-Royce Griffon driving contra-rotating propellers, it was an advanced design but failed to get into real production.

Part 1 Twin-Tail variant

flying-finn · 11 November 2010

Part 2 Triple-Tail variant

flying-finn · 11 November 2010

Post 3 Schemes

note the different size of the central fin of the triple-tail veriant in previous post.

flying-finn · 11 November 2010

From Air International

lucamax · 11 October 2011

Hi,
Do you have also a color profile of the aircraft?
Thank you for yout help!

famvburg · 12 October 2011

Not a color profile, but a pic if it will do.
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/OLPR7251

lucamax said:
Hi,
Do you have also a color profile of the aircraft?
Thank you for yout help!

lucamax · 15 October 2011

Very Thanks for the information! However I have found a decent profile taken from a kit-box model ;-)

Justo Miranda · 15 October 2011

model pic here

Grey Havoc · 16 October 2011

The RAF really should have taken some into service. Ah well.

Kokoro · 22 May 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r06V_svnB8
Seagull in this farnborough video.

hesham · 1 March 2015

Hi,

here is the Supermarine Seagull flying boat project,which intended for Spec.
S12/40,it differs a little from the aircraft actually built,Type-381,it had a V-tail
and maybe a slender fuselage.

The British Aircraft Specifications File

Schneiderman · 1 March 2015

At first there were two versions of Type 347, this one and an alterative powered by a Bristol Taurus and with the cockpit in the wing support pylon. There may also have been a biplane version (I need to check).

cluttonfred · 3 March 2015

Was it the cockpit (for the pilot) in the pylon, an observer or engineer's station, or perhaps the gunner's station under the turret?

Schneiderman · 3 March 2015

Cockpit in the front of the pylon (where the radiator sits in the Merlin engine version), gunner in the cupola behind the engine and navigator/observer in the nose.

cluttonfred · 3 March 2015

Interesting, and an odd choice both from the noise/vibration perspective and because the windows as drawn would have given a pretty poor view.

Schneiderman · 4 March 2015

Yes, I don't see any advantage apart from a small improvement in drag, although that was probably negated by the pylon being slightly higher as the Taurus drives a single prop, compared to the Merlin's contra. Also placing the cockpit in the pylon restricted it to one seat while if it is in the nose there was space for a second, which was useful for the observer.

Schneiderman · 4 March 2015

I should also point out that both Type 347 designs lacked the variable incidence mechanism installed on the production Type 381

Schneiderman · 9 March 2015

Further to my earlier post I can now confirm that there was a third Type 347 preliminary design; a biplane with Taurus engine and cockpit in the nose.

Avimimus · 9 March 2015

Are there any surviving drawings of the version with the pilot in the wing support pylon?

Anyone have information about the turret (remote or manned? Armament?)

Schneiderman · 9 March 2015

There are just two in the RAF Museum archive, and that is probably all there ever were as the design never went beyond basic layout.

The turret is manned and holds 4 x .303 guns, type not specified

Sundog · 13 June 2020

Has anyone seen any cockpit photos are drawings of this aircraft? I'm going through my collection, but haven't found anything yet. I was just wondering if anyone here was aware of any such information. I know someone modeling one for Flight Simulator, but he can't complete the model due to the lack of information regarding the cockpit layout.

Thanks,
Ken

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