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Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« on: August 20, 2007, 02:00:09 pm »
I hadn't heard of this aircraft until a couple of weeks ago and I haven't found more than a passing mention of it on this forum, so I thought I'd post some info.

It's clearly a Mig-21 derivative, but apparently a new airframe, not a modification. From what I've read, it served partly as Mig-25 engine testbed in the early to mid '60s. It was temporarily misidentified by NATO as the Mig-23 and designated 'Flipper', and also given a civilian/research code of YE-166 in the Soviet Union. Later it was the basis fo the F-8 in China.

It set three world speed records. All of these have been superseded, but the point of historical interest is that it's still the fastest single-engined aircraft ever built.


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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 02:12:57 pm »
"Uragan-5" automatic guidance and intercept system for E-152-9 aircraft.

Development of interceptor-fighters for "Uragan-5" complex began in accordance with the Council of Ministers resolution dated February 26, 1955 and the Ministry of Aviation Industry order dated March 8, 1955. The intercept complex was intended to perform automatic guidance, self-guidance, attack and withdrawal from attack operations. It consisted of following components: ground radar station (detection range of 345 km), digital control computer, active interrogation system (SAZO), command data link (SPK), automatic guidance post and interceptor-fighter equipped with airborne radar (detection range of 25 km), autopilot and computer (SRP). "Uragan-5" system had to intercept enemy supersonic bombers flying at the altitude of 10-25 km with the speed of 1600-2000 km/hour in an area 100-120 km around interceptor take-off airfield if preliminary warning from air defence system was provided.

Initially it was planned to built five following interceptor-fighter versions:

-two aircraft armed with two 30 mm cannon whose firing rate was 1300-1500 shots per minute;

-two aircraft armed with guided rockets;

-one aircraft armed with unguided rockets.

Prototype of the system had to be delivered for the State tests in the I quarter 1958. Aircraft fitted out with above-mentioned armament had to hit the enemy bombers performing attack on head-on crossing course or abaft and to provide bomber kill probability not less than 0.8. But in accordance with the Council of Ministers resolution dated March 28, 1956 and the Ministry of Aviation Industry order dated April 6, 1956, number of interceptor-fighters to be built, their armament configuration as well as date of "Uragan-5" delivery for the State tests were changed. Four following E-150 interceptor-fighter versions had to be built and presented for tests in the III quarter 1958:

-two aircraft armed with K-6 guided rockets;

-one aircraft armed with unguided rockets;

-one aircraft fitted out with a movable cannon mount (two 30 mm cannon whose firing rate was 1300-1500 shots per minute).

The Mikoyan Design bureau was preparing E-150 aircraft project in 1956. Detail design work and aircraft mock-up construction began by late 1956. But, in accordance with new Council of Ministers resolution dated March 7, 1957 and Ministry of Aviation Industry order dated March 21, 1957, the Mikoyan Design bureau was charged with a new task to build and deliver for the State tests in IV quarter 1958 five following E-150 aircraft versions:

-one aircraft armed with guided rockets K-6V;

-two aircraft armed with K-70 guided rockets;

-two aircraft fitted out with two movable 30 mm cannon.

In 1957 detail design work was done, drawings and technical documentation were issued. It was planned initially to use TKB-539 cannon with firing rate 2000 shots per minute developed by ZKB-14 which had a small length, fixed central case collector and fixed case and link ejection ports permitting to install cannon conveniently on a movable mount. But according to "Uragan-5" development plan for 1958, two first E-150 aircraft had to be armed by K-8 rockets (for abaft attack) in place of K-6 rockets. Last three aircraft had to be armed with K-9 rockets (for attack on head-on crossing course) in place of cannon mount and K-70 rockets. These replacements delayed completion of interceptor-fighter design work.

Because of task complexity and delayed development of R-15-300 engine and "Uragan-5" components, in accordance with the Council of Ministers resolutions dated April 16 and June 4, 1958 and the Ministry of Aviation Industry orders dated April 24 and June 4, 1958, the construction completion data were reconsidered for following aircraft:

-two aircraft equipped with R-15-300 engine and K-8 rockets (E-150);

-two aircraft equipped with two R-11-F300 engines and K-9 rockets (E-152A);

-one aircraft equipped with R-15-300 engine and K-9 rockets (E-152).

Nevertheless, component development of "Uragan-5" system armed with K-8 rockets began in IV quarter using the I-75 and I-75F aircraft evolved from I-7K and I-7U fighters. Permit to use R-11F-300 engines prior to R-15-300 delivery helped to begin E-152A tests in III quarter 1959. Presentation of an aircraft powered by R-15-300 engines was delayed to II quarter 1960.

Since delivery of "Uragan" components has been constantly delayed, the Mikoyan Design bureau began to develop E-152-9 intercept complex intended to be included into automatic guidance system "Dal". By the late 1960, automatic control and guidance system was developed, control loops including real equipment were tested at all intercept modes using dynamic simulator, and flight tests of some intercept system components began with E-152A aircraft. It was decided in 1961 to include the intercept complex, designated E-152-9-V, in "Vozdukh-1" guidance system; tests were performed using E-152 intercept-fighter.

The program was cancelled in 1962, since KB-1 charged with new tasks ceased production of autopilot, seeker, power units and other components of K-9 armament system.

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http://wp.scn.ru/mig_okb/planes-exp-ur5_e152_9
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 07:52:10 am »
So how fast did it go? Here's another shot with different missiles - sorry I can't remember where from. Was the YE-8 related?, another cool single engined MIG.

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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 03:03:49 pm »
Hi to all! I am new here, but i see you have many interestings threads, especially this one, with the Mach 3 MiGs. Nice infos overscan, i found some pieces of the puzzle.

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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 05:40:48 am »
Didn't the Ye-152/Flipper have two engines?   The pictures posted all appear to have one.

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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 06:29:04 am »
The picture in the first shot would appear to be the Mach 2.58 Ye-166. It even says it on the side :). A larger derivative of the Mig-21, I'm pretty sure it used an early version of the Mig-25's engine. This was purely a research aircraft. The picture further down, labelled as the Ye-152, isn't, but is also the Ye-166.

The 'Flipper' is indeed a twin engined aircraft, but was overshadowed by Sukhoi's larger aircraft. A quick image search reveals a lot of sites mix up the two aircraft. If it has 166 on the side, it's the single engined research aircraft, if it has 152, then it's the twin engined aircraft that later spawned the J-8.

EDIT: Ok, this makes the distinction between the two aircraft clearer.
http://wp.scn.ru/mig_okb/planes-exp-e166
"In 1959 design work and working drawings preparation began to transform second Ye-150 prototype into Ye-152/1 aircraft, designated officially Ye-166, equipped with R-15-300 engine and K-9 guided rockets."

So, the minor modification is the aircraft we see pictured here.

EDIT: Having read further, it seems that the single engined craft was the one originally proceeded with for a production version, and later went on to be a record breaker when the program was cancelled, while the twin engined variant was put in place due to non-availability of the proper engine, and flew first as a systems testbed. This actually makes a lot of sense now, as it explains why the Ye-152A flew before the supposed research based Ye-166.

Forget what I posted above. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 07:24:01 am »
  Directly to MIG-21 refers only Ye-8 (in spite of external similarity)
 In family "one hundred fifties"(with delta-wing) two motors were equiped only Ye-152A
 - Ye-8,  E-8
 - Ye-150,  E-150
 - Ye-152,  E-152A (two engine)
 - Ye-152/2,  E-152/2
 - Ye-152M,  E-152M (E-166)
Source:R.Belyakov, Zh.Marmen "Planes  MiG 1939 -1995"  AVICO press 1996
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 01:36:16 am »
Renamed topic.
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 11:29:18 am »
What year was the Ye-8 developed? Is this a 1950's derived aircraft for the 60's?
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 11:49:02 am »
Ye-8   1961-62

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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 11:53:29 am »
I'm looking to make the alternative rival to the Mirage III in the Six Day War. I already made the alternative to the Mirage III, the Super Vautour. Do you think the Ye-8 would have been devloped in time to be such an aircraft? Have you any suggestions.

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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 12:23:22 pm »
I'm more or less looking to illustrate a 1950s derived aircraft. My initial book of color profiles, 3 views, and cutaways will be covering 1950s derived aircraft that would have flown in the 1960s. I then will move on to the following decades up to the 90s perhaps. Each book may take 6 months of work to finish. ;D
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 04:24:52 am »
E-8 is from MiG-21 family, but not from family of heavy fighter E-3/E-75 - E-150/152.
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Re: Mikoyan Ye-150/152 and Ye-8 fighters
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 11:29:24 am »
Impressive stuff  ;D
Still waiting for someone to do an export derivative Ye-8 vs. exported North American F-107 hypothetical artwork  ;)