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Offline hesham

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Various Dutch aircraft
« on: November 20, 2006, 11:56:57 am »
From Netherland,

Pander P-1 and P-2 :two seat high wing monoplanes,each powered by
                100 hp De Havilland Gipsy I engine.
Pander P-3 :an open cockpit two seat high wing formula monoplane with
                 a 120 hp De Havilland Gipsy III engine.
Pander Multipro :three seat version of P-3 as a igh wing monoplane with
                 enclosed cabin and powered by 85 hp Pobjoy engine.
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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 09:14:30 am »
Also little known aircraft from Netherland,

Carley C.12 :single seat high wing monoplane,powered by one
                 20 hp Anzani engine.
Holland H-1 :single seat sporting biplane.
Holland H-2 :single seat monoplane,powered by one 25 hp Anzani
                 engine.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2014, 07:49:54 am »
Hi,


here is the Berny Konings flying boat project,it was a high-wing three engined
flying boat,mounted at three pylons over the wing,it's new for me.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6554604r/f9.image

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 02:18:05 pm »
Hi,


here is the Berny Konings flying boat project,it was a high-wing three engined
flying boat,mounted at three pylons over the wing,it's new for me.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6554604r/f9.image


Thank you my dear Jemiba,


but did anyone hear about it before or its designer ?.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 06:21:12 pm »
I would suggest you do not limit your search to The Netherlands. As far as I know, Berny is not a usual Dutch abbreviation of Bernard and I suspect Mr. Konings may have taken his trade to France or the UK. Looking forward to some more clarification.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 04:07:20 am »
My dear Jos,


I don't know to be honest,but I asked about it a Netherland site,and I am waiting
the answer.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 08:56:22 am »
Benny Koning was gone from Spain to the former Dutch East Indies.
He was escaped to Spain and worked for Koolhoven In France (Nevers).
Further no information


Jan

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 01:54:26 pm »
Thank you Jan for the info.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 04:24:30 pm »
Jan, as you describe it Benny (instead of Hesham’s Berny) went from Spain to the Netherlands East Indies, then back to Spain to work at Koolhoven in Nevers (France).
Or did he work at Koolhoven in Nevers, then escaped to Spain from where he went to the Netherlands East Indies. To me its seems to be a more likely course of events and possibly dates it to early 1940, when the Germans invaded France.
This then raises the question about a Koolhoven branch in Nevers. Unfortunately I am away from my home library for some time and cannot check this in Wesselink’s Koolhoven book. So if anybody has further information on that Koolhoven branch, please inform us further

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 04:17:30 am »
Hi Jan,,I think it was Berny not Benny,please see the text.

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 06:50:47 am »
Hi Jan,,I think it was Berny not Benny,please see the text.

Why do you choose to trust a French newspaper to have the right spelling of a Dutch name when Dutch people themselves tell you it's wrong??
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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 08:51:41 am »
Jan, as you describe it Benny (instead of Hesham’s Berny) went from Spain to the Netherlands East Indies, then back to Spain to work at Koolhoven in Nevers (France).
Or did he work at Koolhoven in Nevers, then escaped to Spain from where he went to the Netherlands East Indies. To me its seems to be a more likely course of events and possibly dates it to early 1940, when the Germans invaded France.
This then raises the question about a Koolhoven branch in Nevers. Unfortunately I am away from my home library for some time and cannot check this in Wesselink’s Koolhoven book. So if anybody has further information on that Koolhoven branch, please inform us further
I have two sources that mention a Koolhoven assembly operation on the premises of a factory for agricultural machinery in Nevèrs, France:

- 'Koolhoven - Nederlandse vliegtuigbouwer in de schaduw van Fokker' by Theo Wesselink and Thijs Postma, Unieboek, 1981
- 'Frits Koolhoven en zijn vliegtuigproduktie' by Dik Top, Repro-Holland, 1996

Both sources mention 23 partially assembled F.K.58s that were shipped to Nevèrs for final assembly, a few of these were completed. Dirk Top mentions the engineer Van de Wetering as manager for the French Koolhoven plant.

I think the first book is the one Jos Heyman is referring to. Writer Dik Top of the second book received enough assistance from Jan den den Das for Jan to be specifically mentioned as cooperator on the title page of the book. Well done, Jan.

Berny/Benny Konings is not mentioned in either book. As Jos already mentioned, both 'Berny' and 'Benny' are abbreviations for Bernard in Dutch. 'Benny'  is the one more commonly used, but I personally know of one Bernard who goes by the name Berny.
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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 06:21:37 am »
Hi,


a little known Dutch aircraft,was the Werkspoor Jumbo or Carley Jumbo,it was a biplane
freighter and transport aircraft,its crew was two men,and powered by one Gnome-Rhone
Jupiter VI with propulsion of 480 hp.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werkspoor_Jumbo

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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2017, 08:06:45 am »
Hi

here is a twin boom mid-wing pusher light airplane Project,designed by National Aviation
School NLS in Amsterdamز

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L_ALA%20D_ITALIA_1942_01.pdf
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Re: Various Dutch aircraft
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2017, 09:43:37 am »
Hi,

Mr. Von Baumhauer,In 1913,he built a model of a helicopter with two counter-rotating rotors,the helicopter flew,
but it was not stable enough.