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Offline ucon

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Myasishchev M-19 projects
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:54:08 pm »
Hi to all!
A month or more ago there was discussiion about Myasishchev M-19 space project.
You may find new facts and pix of this project in www.avicopress.ru. More info will follow.
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« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 06:54:52 am by Stargazer2006 »

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 04:19:14 am »
Hi to all once again)
Some new pix from upcoming book about M-19 project.
More info you can find in www.avicopress.ru
Google translator now aviable in the site.
Regards, Ucon

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 09:44:22 am »
The M-19-8-1 is incredible, looking like a fake enlarged "actual aircraft". Wonderful, thanks!
I don't succeed in connecting today to avicopress, but the translation (French for me) is much welcome... One more good point for your site!

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 12:24:29 pm »
Hi to all.
More pix and drawings about M-19-2 ("Kholod-2" programme) see in www. avicopress.ru
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 04:37:47 am »
Hi ucon.
Thank you for the M-19 images, I've always been fascinated by this concept. Can you tell us is the M-19-2 a bomber, spaceplane or what? And, does the "fat" aircraft in Aeroflot colors have an "M-19-X" designation like the M-19-1 and -2?

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 02:48:32 am »
Hi to all!
Answer to dear Meteorit.
Disignations of M-19 (Kholod-2 progtamme):
M-19 (pure) - so called "Gurkolet" = spaceplane+hypersonic bomber
M-19-1 - "fat" laboratory in Aeroflot markings
M-19-2 - pure hypersonic bomber
M-19-3 - shuttle (almost dubble sized Buran)
M-19-4 - shuttle bigger than M-19-3
M-19-4V - swept wing hypersonic bomber (look like Tu-160)
and three more exotic variants of MDB (soon will follow)

And next (the 5th) variant of M-50.
Addition info wil be soon in www.avicopress.ru
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 06:47:18 am »
Thank you so much for this info. However, if I may point out, in image M-19-3-2 in post http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4937.msg40720.html#msg40720 it reads "M-19-1" - I presume this is actually the "pure" M-19? And, by "three more exotic variants" do you mean M-19 variants (making 9 major variants in total)?

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 07:09:35 am »
Dear Meteorit!
M-19-1-2 etc used as numeration for putting those pix into site avicopress and didn't mean craft designations))
Concerning to M-19, yes, it were 9 variants. But 15 years later this subject was reopened and next spaceplane had another name and designations. All will desccribed in upcoming book.
Any questions - contact directly.
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 02:36:09 am »
Dear Meteorit!
M-19-1-2 etc used as numeration for putting those pix into site avicopress and didn't mean craft designations))

Sorry, I meant "M-19-1" in the image itself on the middle drawing, not the filename. So is this craft the M-19 (pure)?

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 01:58:14 pm »
Hi to all!
More info about M-19-3 ("Kholod-2" programme) was added today in www.avicopress.ru
M-19-3 was almost double-sized variant of famous Buran.
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 03:02:19 pm »
Needless to say, a very ambitious project and...do I spy an APU outlet? Very odd for a spacecraft, needless to say, unless it was intended to be running only during the glide phase.
It's a crappy self-made pic of a Lockheed Unmanned Combat Armed Rotorcraft (UCAR), BTW
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 08:41:05 am »
Needless to say, a very ambitious project and...do I spy an APU outlet? Very odd for a spacecraft, needless to say, unless it was intended to be running only during the glide phase.
Look at pic "M-19-12-1.jpg", where you see an engine pod under the fuselage. The pod is also tiled like the heat shield.
Another picture: http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/myasishchev/m/19/img/m19_1a.jpg
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#14 - quite new wing, movable nose, another engines scheme and auxiliary fuel tanks
What does movable nose mean? Just like T-4, Tu-144 and Concorde?
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I presume, we will might see here soon a AWACS variant like the Tupolev TU-126 "Moss".  :)
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 08:44:42 am »
What does movable nose mean? Just like T-4, Tu-144 and Concorde?

Yes, droop nose a-la Concorde. We were thinking of right term, but finally went to 'movable'.
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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2008, 09:13:10 am »
Hi to all!
Sometimes it is very funny to see link where I can find the illustrations from my own book -  http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/myasishchev/m/19/img/m19_1a.jpg
Thank you very much, dear fightingirish  ;D

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Re: Myasishchev M-19 projects
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 04:19:19 am »
Hi all!
M-19-4 ("Kholod-2" programme) has added in www.avicopress.ru.
First time ever presented in high quality pix and descriptions.
Regards