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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #210 on: April 20, 2017, 12:18:07 am »
Almost like a Cessna 172...

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #211 on: April 20, 2017, 01:11:30 am »
Yep 50 psi is light aircraft territory.
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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #213 on: April 20, 2017, 04:08:59 am »
Jane's aren't impressed by it. :D

http://www.janes.com/article/69610/iran-shows-new-footage-of-f-313-stealth-fighter

From what I have seen in the article, Jane's are not impressed by the air intakes.   :-\

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #214 on: April 20, 2017, 06:02:36 am »
Jane's aren't impressed by it. :D

http://www.janes.com/article/69610/iran-shows-new-footage-of-f-313-stealth-fighter

From what I have seen in the article, Jane's are not impressed by the air intakes.   :-\

They're right not to be. Vortices will kill the air flow into the engines.
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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #215 on: April 20, 2017, 07:20:41 am »
I think that if Iran are really 100% for this fighter then they should redesign the air intakes with something far more traditional like the intakes of the F-35.

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #216 on: April 20, 2017, 10:30:29 am »

They're right not to be. Vortices will kill the air flow into the engines.
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Delta fly with alpha. This is not a delta. It has a sharp nose with flat size. You don't know what could be the attitude of the fuselage in flight.
And, once again, IMOHO, this is more a "flying boat" (understand a boat flying) with a fluid flow slightly more dense than air (hence less vorticity). Given the discussion around the non moving nose wheel and rudders in turn on the ground, this "air"-frame can even be a towed model/glider.

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #217 on: April 21, 2017, 12:38:45 am »
newspapers in Turkey tell the appearance took place during a celebration of the achievements of the Defence Minister . Am not an Iran watcher so can't tell who is who but it was also in the news that the Revolutionary Guards wants "full command" of the economy . So , this is then a very democratic plane . My reputation to confuse and confound also seems to be on an upswing so what we see here is the fact that the export licence for the IR exhausts has not been given and Russians are already turning out fuselages and the simulator gear . And the sad thing is the hacking of computers have been reserved only for the Stavatti maiden , so that the faces of experts can be saved for posterity ...

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #218 on: April 21, 2017, 03:35:07 am »
So unusual and strange, maybe it is a (WIG) wing in ground effect air vehicle to skim the surface and pop up attacks on naval targets. Much like a flying speedboat.





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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #219 on: April 21, 2017, 03:48:24 am »
Wouldn't make much sense to have intakes on top in that case.

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #220 on: April 21, 2017, 08:27:50 am »
WIGs need a very specific shape in order to work. Unless the Iranians have discovered new principles that escaped the Russians in their 70 years of experimentations, i would tend to say...no.
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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #221 on: April 22, 2017, 05:45:26 pm »
You know, we are discussing what cpould have been their intend with that design. Not gloryfying or acertaining their success.
The stealthy IGE  (nearly a WiG but without being a seaplane) could be that. It matches their known strategy at sea (straights and Tanker war until they began to be producer again - hence the timing).
Then that it fly would be another question that doesn't belong to our discussion, no?

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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #222 on: April 22, 2017, 06:55:55 pm »
So unusual and strange, maybe it is a (WIG) wing in ground effect air vehicle to skim the surface and pop up attacks on naval targets. Much like a flying speedboat.
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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #223 on: April 22, 2017, 07:01:29 pm »
They're right not to be. Vortices will kill the air flow into the engines.
Well, let's give 'em a chance (F-117A flies with her vortex aerodynamics; Iranians had tested something in Fluent and even in windtunnel; impeller-driven model flies (somehow)).
Apparently I don't want to be a test pilot of F-313 though, but you are underestimating Allah influence on laminar flow.
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Re: Iranian Qaher-313 "indigenous fighter jet"
« Reply #224 on: April 22, 2017, 09:31:06 pm »
I actually worry for the pilot if they get orders to fly.