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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2007, 10:08:44 pm »

Assuming Cammnut does not beat me to it. Wink

Dang - it's a weekend and I can't rise to the challenge!

Here's what Dave Harvey ha to say about the first flight on Rotorhub.com:

Exclusive: Piasecki Team Celebrates VTDP First Flight

Late Friday,  Piasecki Aircraft re-entered the helicopter history books with a 15 minute flight of its unique compound helicopter design, the X-49A SpeedHawk.

Lifting off at Boeing’s Rotorcraft Div., Wilmington, Del, test facility at 7.50 pm the flight test team  - which had worked all week to resolve a pesky shaft vibration problem - put the aircraft through a series of turns and a short  forward flight sequence.

Pilots Steve Schellburg and ‘Snake’ Jackson guided the SH-60F-based helicopter - modified with its Piasecki-designed VTDP (vectored thrust ducted propeller) tail assembly - on a maiden voyage reportedly free of any problems.

A clearly delighted company chief executive John Piasecki tells rotorhub he regards the flight as the ‘beginning of the beginning’ for the return of compound helicopter flight efficiencies to the rotorcraft industry.

 Compunds promise radical increases in speed and range  for conventional helicopters by off-loading rotors in favor of wingborne flight.

 The Piasecki design uses a ducted propeller to provide  motive thrust, as well as vectored control of direction.

 ‘It’s been a long, long time coming, and we’re all savoring the moment,’ he said.

The team is utilising Boeing flight test telemetry facilities at Wilmington once used for V-22 testing,  and - as reported in rotorhub last week - the latter is co-operating on the program because of potential interest in the VTDP design for future applications.

Piasecki  has just signed a $3.1-million development contract with the Army’s AATD (Aviation Applied Technology Directorate) organisation in Ft. Eustis, Va., one of the more a forward-looking agencies often associated with pushing rotorcraft  technology boundaries.

Piasecki says a 100-hour flight test program now lies ahead.

‘The schedule is still fluid but we anticipate being able to get this done within the rest of the year.’ The program will receive incremental funding as it progresses, he said.

The success of the first flight has enormous potential significance for a technology that many have often derided as impractical.

The Piasecki organisation stuck to its guns, however, working the problem resolutely for many, many years, drawing on bursts of funding enthusiasm mostly from within the Navy, the US Marine Corps and the Army.

‘A lot of people said this day would never come,’ Piasecki said. ‘Well, they were wrong.’

* A personal loss - the sudden death last week of Carl, USMC sergeant son of  Terry Crews a well regarded figure in the helicopter industry - motivated the flight to be dedicated to him, Piasecki said.

- David S. Harvey

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2007, 11:19:44 am »

First pics on flight...

http://tinyurl.com/2slj22

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2007, 03:36:52 pm »

Here's the Flight link and the pic itself

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/07/03/215329/picture-piasecki-flies-x-49a-speedhawk-compound-helicopter.html

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 10:01:02 pm »

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Actually  believe their proposed endstate is to have a third engine installed (another T 700 series) to provide High/Hot power for the aircraft.
Indeed.  While the X-49A is a demo-only aircraft, the SpeedHawk SOV design would - if ever funded - mount three T700-401Cs.

Some interesting claims now emerging from Piasecki.  The Speedhawk will reportedly increase the H-60's MGW to 29,444 lb (for STOL ops, assuming it holds together Grin), and - allegedly - quadruple the type's range.  Note also that the current aircraft configuration does not yet incorporate the SPU, only the two T700s.
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2007, 04:16:26 am »

Well considering how bad the 60's are 'huffin-en-puffin' in A-stan they need to do something. 

Here is an interesting note:  The Army Infantry Center did not concur with the development of the UH-60M.  It did nothing for them.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2007, 09:53:19 pm »

I've been looking forward to seeing this fly. Westland had some ideas about a compound Lynx demonstrator a few years back in support of a possible compound Merlin helicopter for the RN's FOAEW requirement.

Pic from http://navy-matters.beedall.com/masc.htm
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 01:14:39 am »

The interesting aspect of the proposed compund Lynx was the use of variable-area nozzles on the engines (larger RTM322s instead of Gems, I think) to provide the propulsive thrust for high-speed forward flight.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 04:15:37 am »

I see this stuff and it makes me wish the Cheyenne had made it.  To me the only real handy cap it had was being single-engined (albeit a LARGE single engine).  It would be interesting to compare the stats of the single-engine Cobras with the Apaches as far as loses due to the engine(s) go.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2007, 05:41:34 pm »

It only takes one crew getting back on one engine to make it worth the cost.  As an old Cobra driver I loved my ride, but I have seen damaged Apaches come home that would have made a Cobra a "Smokin' hole in the ground".

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2007, 10:05:53 pm »

The X-49 flew at 160 knots. Thats 5 knots faster than a UH-60 will do in
level flight.
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2007, 12:28:47 am »

It only takes one crew getting back on one engine to make it worth the cost.  As an old Cobra driver I loved my ride, but I have seen damaged Apaches come home that would have made a Cobra a "Smokin' hole in the ground".
As an old Slick driver I will take an aircraft that isn't a hanger queen like the Apache. If the engine won't start it isn't worth much.
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2007, 04:06:47 am »

It only takes one crew getting back on one engine to make it worth the cost.  As an old Cobra driver I loved my ride, but I have seen damaged Apaches come home that would have made a Cobra a "Smokin' hole in the ground".
As an old Slick driver I will take an aircraft that isn't a hanger queen like the Apache. If the engine won't start it isn't worth much.

Huh?... actually they are getting pretty good OR rates downrange these days.  Also the high DA&PA they are operating at you need the power.  Don't get me wrong the H-1's were great, I really enjoyed the ability to get off the ground in three minutes from a cold start, less if it was preflighted through "battery on", but two engines are better than one anytime in my book. I had an engine on my UH-60 go west on day 4 of ODS.  Instead of sitting in the middle of Indian country waiting for someone to come get us, we off loaded all the crap into other birds and flew on one engine to the next assembly area. 

Back to the story above,  I personally never got a Hawk above 130 KIAS in level flight, and that was not pretty.  It was shaking so bad I could hardly see the instruments, I was slick and was still pulling the guts out of the engines.  Yes it was an Alpha model but then the X-49A is also, though a USN bird.
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2007, 08:00:19 pm »

Flight test video now available. Says they've got it up to 177kt, going downhill...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yu2CwHwxJYA&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Yu2CwHwxJYA&rel=1</a>
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2007, 09:09:15 pm »

And the same video turns up on The Woracle by some uncanny coincidence...

Looking at this, I'm guessing that you have to provide some reverse thrust component from the rotor.
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2008, 09:03:33 pm »

In vertiflite winter '07 there's an interesting comparison of the shrouded pusher prop
of the Piasecki Pathfinder and the Speedhawk. In the older aircraft, yaw control
was achieved using venetians blinds in the ring, whereas the Speedhawk uses
moving sectors in the ring. the old dog has learned a new trick ..

Additionally there's a photo of a model of a H-60 with pusher and high set,
forward swept wings. 
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