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Offline fredymac

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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2017, 04:02:34 pm »
I am not looking to hijack this trend or make it into a broader political discussion; as Trump commented on the subject matter it is reasonable to comment on those comments and I made sure to focus on the topic of the US carriers and there captapult system.  It appears that it is you who are looking to broaden this out to wider politics (quoting rather unrelated comments by Obama from a debate with Romney?).

Your "comments" consisted of pejorative attacks on Trump, his character, and his politics.

My response began on the topic of naval power as defined by carrier strike groups and Obama's desire to drastically curtail them as introduced through a quote.  As I mentioned, you do not have the power to sanction the scope of your opposition's response in order to suit your needs.

I would just add that you don't know that the current president wouldn't make the type of decision that you are trying to characterise the decision to cut short the production of the F-22 to be.

You might say I don't know whether Trump might suddenly embark upon a worldwide apology tour.  I am willing to take the risk.

Even just limited to the wider defense/ foreign policy area this president has been more erratic/ less predictable than other recent Presidents and he does not necessarily appear to consult widely or particularly value advice that may contradict his own pre-existing views (in fairness should be recognised that some of his more extreme policy positions such as re: NATO have been rolled back). Based on this pattern of decision making he could easily make such a decision that you disagree with.

Trans Pacific Partnership:  dead. Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership:  dead.  NAFTA:  renegotiation or dead.  NATO:  Merkel says:
"Chancellor Angela Merkel told her home northeastern constituents on Saturday that Germany was obligated to lift its defense spending from its current 1.2 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) to the 2 percent agreed by NATO members at its summit in 2014. (DW)"
NATO adjustment to terrorism: "NATO moves closer to Trump priority of fighting terrorism (DW)"

I personally would like to see the US leave.  I admit I might be in the minority here.  I would extend bilateral defense treaties to individual European countries that asked for it contingent upon their full reciprocity in burden sharing.  In the end, Europeans are certainly no longer taking the US for granted.

Border Wall:  bids are coming in, surveying teams are on site.

In other words, I don't see the usual Republican stab in the back that I have come to expect from the likes of John McCain and the DC establishment.  Indeed, it is the intensity of disdain and horror from the media that best informs me that Trump is still moving in the right direction.

And re: the F-22 decision it is worth remember that this was not an Obama campaign policy position but was proposed by his Republican Secretary of Defense (Gates) and was enthusiastically support by fellow senior Republicans like John McCain.

Indeed.  Gates was held over precisely because Obama could see the benefits.

For better or worse the decision to stop producing the F-22 was the consensus defense establishment view everywhere except at US airforce senior brass level and Obama backed his Defense Secretary.
In this context the consensus view of the defence establishment appears to be to stick with the new catapults; based on his decision making style President Trump appears more likely than previous Presidents to listen to and go with other voices (for better or worse).


Obama naturally backed his SecDef doing what he wanted.
The way senior Air Force leadership were removed just prior to cancellation is interesting. The immediate pretext was convenient and their replacements were more than happy to go along.

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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #106 on: May 19, 2017, 11:08:27 am »
And. . .what should come as a surprise to absolutely nobody:

"General Atomics, San Diego, California, is being awarded $195,180,206 for modification 00013 to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price contract (N00019-14-C-0037) to exercise an option for the manufacture, assembly, inspection, test and checkout of the advanced arresting gear for the CVN 80 shipset, including installation and checkout spares, repairs, technical data, and drawing changes. "

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/183764/ga-wins-extra-%24195m-for-cvn_80-arresting-gear.html
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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #107 on: May 27, 2017, 03:51:19 pm »
Acceptance trials underway.


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #108 on: May 27, 2017, 08:03:12 pm »
She's a beauty!

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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #109 on: May 28, 2017, 09:23:51 am »
Yup, what an impressive ship. Kudos to America for building such an enormous marvel of engineering.
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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2017, 07:00:22 am »
Live Stream of the Commissioning Ceremony (also on CSPAN) - http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/07/21/uss-gerald-r-ford-cvn-78-commissioning-ceremony/
« Last Edit: July 22, 2017, 07:19:07 am by bring_it_on »
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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2017, 01:13:47 pm »
Published on Jul 22, 2017

Captain Richard McCormack weighs in after ship commissioning ceremony.


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #113 on: July 22, 2017, 01:19:43 pm »
USS Gerald Ford: The latest warship to join the Navy’s fleet

Published on Jul 21, 2017

A look at some of the state-of-the-art features in the USS Gerald Ford, the latest warship to join the Navy’s impressive fleet.


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #114 on: July 22, 2017, 01:22:01 pm »
USS Gerald Ford features new aircraft launch system

Published on Jul 22, 2017

Admiral John Richardson discusses ship's innovations, the Navy's readiness


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #115 on: July 22, 2017, 01:24:11 pm »
Full Ceremony: USS Gerald R. Ford Commissioning

Full ceremony of the commissioning of the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) at Naval Station Norfolk, July 22 2017. President Donald Trump was among those to speak at the event. More on the Ford aircraft carrier: http://on.wvec.com/GeraldRFord


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #116 on: July 22, 2017, 01:32:56 pm »
Touring the future USS Gerald R. Ford

Published on Jul 10, 2017

On Monday, members of the media got their first look at what will be the Navy's first new carrier to join the fleet since the USS George H. W. Bush in 2009.


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #117 on: July 22, 2017, 01:35:38 pm »
USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Media Day at Naval Station Norfolk

Published on Jul 10, 2017

Local and National Media toured the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78 ). The Gerald R. Ford is the new line of aircraft carriers.


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #118 on: July 22, 2017, 01:41:04 pm »
CVN 78 Media Day

Published on Jul 16, 2017

Credit: Petty Officer 2nd Class Kristopher Ruiz | Date Taken: 07/10/2017
Capt Richard McCormack, commanding officer of the future USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78), speaks to media outlets during Ford's media day. More than a dozen media outlets toured the ship in preparation for the ship's upcoming commissioning. (U.S. Navy video by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kristopher Ruiz)


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Re: Gerald R. Ford Class CVN
« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2017, 03:16:42 am »
But her EMALS