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Offline hesham

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Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« on: November 19, 2012, 05:58:15 am »
Also here is some unidentified Sukhoi Fighters of 1940;

http://alternathistory.org.ua/istrebiteli-posukhogo-perioda-vtoroi-mirovoi-voiny
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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2012, 05:59:13 am »
And;

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 08:13:19 am »
the direct url to this post:


http://alternathistory.org.ua/istrebiteli-posukhogo-perioda-vtoroi-mirovoi-voiny


I found fascinating the last one because my preference for asymmetrical configurations  ;)  here a couple of bigger pictures from:


http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft31008.htm
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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 12:24:46 pm »
My 5 kopecks to this topic
SINGLE-SEAT FIGHTER POWERED BY TWO M-107 ENGINES
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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2012, 12:09:08 am »
picture 2: single-seat fighter s2 AM-37

picture 4: IOP 2 AM-37 ,variant1: low wing ; variant 2: middle wing design

picture 6: general view of the aircraft I2M-92

picture 7: may be my imagination, but I think i see the TK3 designation in the end

picture 8: general view of the .......TK3

picture 9: general view of the single seat fighter with two M-107 motors

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2012, 03:08:11 am »
picture 2: single-seat fighter s2 AM-37

picture 4: IOP 2 AM-37 ,variant1: low wing ; variant 2: middle wing design

picture 6: general view of the aircraft I2M-92

picture 7: may be my imagination, but I think i see the TK3 designation in the end

picture 8: general view of the .......TK3

picture 9: general view of the single seat fighter with two M-107 motors

Good job ! Soviet unknown projects are very intersting, particulary these of Mr Sukhoi !
Regards
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L'aviation c'est bon pour les sportifs ! Pour l'Armée c'est zéro ! (Général Joffre - Concours de Reims - 1911).

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2012, 04:59:55 am »
picture 2: single-seat fighter s2 AM-37

picture 4: IOP 2 AM-37 ,variant1: low wing ; variant 2: middle wing design

picture 6: general view of the aircraft I2M-92

picture 7: may be my imagination, but I think i see the TK3 designation in the end

picture 8: general view of the .......TK3

picture 9: general view of the single seat fighter with two M-107 motors


Excellent,thank you Bigvlada very much.

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2012, 07:36:02 am »
My 5 kopecks to this topic
SINGLE-SEAT FIGHTER POWERED BY TWO M-107 ENGINES

Any estimated performance figures? What was the armament (almost looks like two ShKAS...)

Thanks!

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 12:07:10 pm »

The calculated data are not known.
To arm has different information,
V. Proklov's (director of the museum Sukhoi Design Bureau) in the "Planes of the world" № 2, 2001 wrote: "Armament consisted of three 23-mm cannons. A  was placed (in the sleeve)in the bush of propeller, the other two - in the wing."  Probably 'VYa'
According to Gordon /OKB Sukhoi A history of the design bureauand its aircraft/ the following information: "Gun armament of the fighter consisted of two wing - mounted 12.7 mm (.50 cal) UBS machine guns and single 20 mm cannon."

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Re: Sukhoi unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 11:43:34 am »
Thanks! That's a really neat design!

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Re: Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2014, 07:29:25 am »
Also from Kryl'ya Rodine 5/1996,


a more drawings to a Sukhoi Fighter Projects and the schedule to the plans from 1940
up to 1943.

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Re: Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 09:21:22 am »
1) - ODBSh or aircraft"91"(intrafactory code)/6.1941/ - twin engined (M-71F) armored attack aircraft, no fighter
2) - DDBSh or aircraft "B" or Su-8 /10.1941/- twin engined armored attacker, no fighter
3) - I-2xM-71F with 4 TK-3 superchargers fighter/multipurpose aircraft /12.1942/(see also post 1, picture 7 and 8) no Su-6 !!!
In the text magazine literally says: ...with a modified cabin by type Su-6.

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Re: Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 12:52:48 pm »
Wonderful!!
The ancient times of the airplane of a Sukhoi are also still very beautiful.

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Re: Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2014, 01:41:24 pm »
Many thanks to you my dear Borovik.

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Re: Sukhoi Unidentified Fighters of 1940
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2014, 03:09:55 pm »
Hi
   Thanks is there a designation associated with No 5, the westland whirlwind lookalike.
  Or a date associatec with the proposal ?
     Cheers
        Jerry