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Offline richard

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Various Messerschmitt projects
« on: December 13, 2006, 04:07:03 am »
Messerschmitt Bf 165 was a long range bomber project  (1936-37 )
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 05:46:25 am »
for slmvbs,

I don't know that design and I think it was new.
Messerschmitt P.1097 little known project:
it was single seat mid-wing pulse-jet fighter,developed
from P.1079.
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 10:08:54 am »
Messerschmitt Bf 165 was a long range bomber project  (1936-37 )

Wasn't this one loosely derived from the Bf-110?

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 10:35:22 am »
elmayerle,There's very little published about this Bf 165
In  "Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag page 206 there is  a sketch
and it is said than a 100 000 RM 100% mock up was built and shown to the Führer
It has nothing to do with Bf 161,Bf 162 derivatives of Bf 110 or Me 261
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 11:30:55 pm »
elmayerle,There's very little published about this Bf 165
In  "Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag page 206 there is  a sketch
and it is said than a 100 000 RM 100% mock up was built and shown to the Führer
It has nothing to do with Bf 161,Bf 162 derivatives of Bf 110 or Me 261

Looking at references at home rather than relying on memory, I agree.  I've got the English-language version of that book and the fuselage of that bomber reminds me of a scale-up of the Hampden fuselage.  ;)
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 10:25:18 am »
Richard, can you show us the drawing of the Messerschmitt Bf 165
published in the Bernard & Graefe book.
Thanks in advance..
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 09:30:21 am »
Dear richard,

There are Messerschmitt P.1075,P.1085 and P.1112:
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2006, 09:26:34 am »
anther project from my dear richard,

Messerschmitt P.1113 :tailless jet fighter.

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2006, 09:44:21 am »
Hi,

there is Messerschmitt P.1108 in new design.
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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2007, 08:47:28 am »
Hi,

Messerschmitt BF109TL :was single seat fighter project of BF109
with two underwing Junkers Jumo 109-004B TURBOJET engines.

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2007, 10:30:08 am »
Hi,

The Me-335 twin engined (push-pull) single seat fighter project,the Arado-234E
and Me-262 SB2.

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 01:34:19 pm »
Hi,

we speak enough in the Luftwaffe projects topic,but I still have unknown projects
and aircraft,not for Luftwaffe only but it was also before 1933,so I open this topic
to refresh the subject.
in Internet I found some projects and I hope we can identify them,for example
Casper SJ was a floatplane fighter project,
did you know Messerschmitt Me.165,Me.320 and Me.368 ?.



From "Die deutsche luftfhart Willy Messerschmitt-Pionier der Luftfahrt und des Leichtbaues" Bernard & Graefe Verlag

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2008, 12:50:59 pm »
"did you know Messerschmitt Me.165"

Based on the infos and drawings from the book shown by Justo, I tried to make
a reconstruction of the Bf.165, see below.
To those, who want to know more about the "why" of certain details, I can send
a short summary. As always the warning : HIGHLY SPECULATIVE !
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2008, 11:45:41 pm »
Thanks a lot Jemiba !

Speculative ,indeed ,but no more than a lot of german 45/6 "projects" "

I wonder what you could do for the Fi 168 ?

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Re: Various Messerschmitt projects
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2008, 05:01:28 am »
"did you know Messerschmitt Me.165"

Based on the infos and drawings from the book shown by Justo, I tried to make
a reconstruction of the Bf.165, see below.
To those, who want to know more about the "why" of certain details, I can send
a short summary. As always the warning : HIGHLY SPECULATIVE !
but there are technical data about Me.165 ?
The year of project ?
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