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Offline Skyblazer

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1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« on: March 21, 2012, 07:00:26 am »
Lockheed nuclear-powered bomber project (CAMAL contender), very different from alleged designs previously shown and found in:

HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE
JOINT COMMITTEE ON ATOMIC ENERGY CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
EIGHTY-SIXTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION ON THE AIRCRAFT NUCLEAR PROPULSION PROGRAM
JULY 23, 1959
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 05:24:43 am »
Interesting & unusual design; thanks for sharing, Stargazer2006.
 

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 11:22:13 am »
looks like a bomber sized F-104 Starfighter.

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 01:49:33 pm »
They'd have had to have made the runway for it on the salt flats in Utah.
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 02:40:33 pm »
See also :Lockheed GL-145 via the search function..

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2012, 03:00:41 pm »
CODE ONE magazine online posted this Lockheed design today. -SP


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The Lockheed L-225 design concept was the company’s second look at a bomber powered by a small nuclear reactor. Although no engineering reports could be found on this design (which dates back to 1951) dozens of original drawings showing twenty-seven iterations of the basic layout were discovered. Each of the iterations shows the aircraft capable of carrying two missiles, rather than being strictly a bomber. The L-225, had it been built, would have been powered by four nuclear-fueled engines.
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 04:08:02 pm »
CODE ONE magazine online posted this Lockheed design today. -SP

Er... not today. It's been there for a few days now...  ::)
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 05:01:17 pm »
CODE ONE magazine online posted this Lockheed design today. -SP

Er... not today. It's been there for a few days now...  ::)
Pardon me, please. -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 11:09:19 pm »
It is so ugly that it is nice

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2012, 09:24:30 am »
you can really see the f-104 in this thing :P just bloated and scaled up a few times.

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 12:39:01 pm »
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dozens of original drawings showing twenty-seven iterations of the basic layout were discovered.

Would be great to see more, specially those armed with missiles ::)

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2012, 07:40:49 am »
I saw in the Code One mag.page that the L-225 is  'take two'  ....
Is there somewhere a 'take one'  ?

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2012, 09:39:41 am »
L-195 was Lockheed's "take one" on nuclear bombers.
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2012, 12:12:11 pm »
Aha ! Thanks a lot..

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 12:24:52 pm »
Look here for L-195...and zillions of amazing unbuilt projects

Mother Ships, Parasites and More: Selected USAF Strategic Bomber, XC Heavy Transport and FICON Studies, 1945-1954 (American Aerospace Archive 5)

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2015, 09:07:01 am »
Does anyone have any info on USAF Secret Project MX-1627: Lockheed - Low Altitude Nuclear Powered Bomber Studies? -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2015, 09:45:47 am »
My dear Steve,


in this period,there is many Lockheed designs for nuclear powered bomber,but which
one ?.

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2015, 10:26:56 am »
My dear Steve,


in this period,there is many Lockheed designs for nuclear powered bomber,but which
one ?.
As it's stated and/or MX-1627 specifically. -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2015, 10:44:53 am »

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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2015, 12:30:13 pm »
Could be it - Not sure - Thanks. -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2015, 05:19:37 pm »
A long time ago, somewhere around the 1950s I ran across the Convair NX-2 and the Lockheed NX-1. At the time my experience was insufficient to take note of the reference and since then I have never been able to find a reference to the Lockheed NX-1. I know this does not identify what Steve is looking for, but it is another hint of search direction.
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2015, 07:06:07 pm »
MX-1626 = very early B-58 studies

Assuming MX-1627 is roughly contemporary, we are probably looking at L-212 and the followon L-225. L-212 is specifically described as low altitude. It has very small wings.
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2015, 07:24:11 pm »
MX-1626 = very early B-58 studies

Assuming MX-1627 is roughly contemporary, we are probably looking at L-212 and the followon L-225. L-212 is specifically described as low altitude. It has very small wings.
I'll check into it - Thanks! -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2015, 07:25:26 pm »
A long time ago, somewhere around the 1950s I ran across the Convair NX-2 and the Lockheed NX-1. At the time my experience was insufficient to take note of the reference and since then I have never been able to find a reference to the Lockheed NX-1. I know this does not identify what Steve is looking for, but it is another hint of search direction.
Thanks for your input! -SP
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2016, 12:44:47 am »
Merged some duplicate topics
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Re: 1950s Lockheed Nuclear Powered bomber studies
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2017, 05:53:39 am »
Hi.

Another illustration + caption of the Martietta study (and dates)

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