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Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« on: April 02, 2006, 11:18:00 am »
Here are some pics of the Northrop/Dornier ND102
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 06:17:22 pm »
More on ND-102 - snapshots from Northrop documentary
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006, 06:18:11 pm »
extra snapshots
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2006, 01:53:28 pm »
Another ND-102 picture

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Roy Braybrook, Supersonic Fighter Development, Foulis 1987
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2006, 02:09:47 pm »
Another from the same book
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 09:44:03 am »
Early (1981) configuration of ND-102

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Henry Matthews, Prelude to Eurofighter: EAP, X Planes Profile 1, HPM 2000
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 03:17:51 pm »
Moved to new topic.

According to Henry Matthews in "Prelude to Eurofighter" it was initiated in 1978, when Dornier & Northrop began collaboration and tested a series of tailed and tailless fighter aircraft designs incorporating state of the art aerodynamics, avionics & propulsion systems. The design was finalised in mid 1982. A total of $20 million was invested, and ND102 was shown at Paris Air Show 1983. It was cancelled in 1984.

Uniquely it was decided to use non-afterburning low bypass ratio turbofan engines. Matthews gives a thrust of 16,000lb per engine, with gross weight 25,000lb.

Bill Gunston (Warplanes of the Future) says it used 2 x PW1120s of 13,550lb thrust, and gives rough sizes (length 50ft, span 29ft). Maximum speed was Mach 2 despite the lack of afterburners.
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2007, 06:07:50 am »
It's a tad strange to me to see no canards on this design ???

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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2007, 08:20:32 am »
Two questions.

1. Where exactly does the ND-102 fit in with the Eurofighter project?

2. The D intake designs (although they are droopy D intakes, I assume for Mach +2), LERX, and the twin horizontal stabilizers of the early 1981 configuration are very reminiscent of the YF-17 design. Was the ND-102 related to, or a development of, Northropís YF-17 cobra design?
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2007, 04:15:53 pm »
Paris 1983

$20 million investment from Northrop & Dornier
1200 hours of windtunnel tests, 34 configurations.
Eliminated canard and tail byuse of thrust vectoring.
Engine thrust: 7265kg - but 6 years of development for powerplant.

Source: Defence & Armament July/August 1983
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 04:22:42 pm »
Yildirim, to answer your questions;

ND102 was studied by Dornier and Northrop to possibly meet German TKF-90 requirement.

ND102 derived from earlier Northrop work on the YF-17. In some ways it is a bridge from YF-17 to YF-23...
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2007, 12:07:58 am »
Northrop called this project "International Fighter".

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"Aircraft Design Philosophy: Lee Begin", Air International, June 1983
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2007, 12:20:43 am »
As far as I can find out, the plan was to use new engines derived from the PW1120 but with enhanced thrust - presumably using technology from higher thrust F100 variants. This would confer Mach 2 class speed without afterburners.
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2007, 02:28:12 am »
If anyone can locate a brochure or even a proper 3 view of this project, I'm willing to pay money for it...
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Re: Northrop P700 / N310 / ND102 advanced fighter
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 01:08:40 pm »
ND-102 3-view, from "Dornier Post" 2/1985.

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