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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 12:37:57 am »
An idea that makes it obligatory to remark on the dislike against this funding of South Korean defence industry. Apparently our MBT is the most expensive in the world and even South Koreans are against it. While one must avoid making this an anti-F-35 thread cost is merely one facet, even if it equally hurts. We are all monkeys here; we must be allowed to fail utterly and avoid the greatest thing Mankind ever builds. Without getting reported or laughed at.

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 11:17:03 pm »
Ahh, you have no idea how deep this runs.

Could you tell us?
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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2013, 12:41:00 am »
The US is on average 2 years late, in everything that has been offered. They will "sometime soon" will press Criminal charges. I was thinking that the thing could be over by 2016-18, but ı hear this would rather be the start-up date. Which then possibly means 2026 or so and no sign of giving up the contract. Nothing worthy of discussion really. Uncle Sam passed on the chance to kill the deal when Ankara seemed so Anti-Semitic.
 
There have been so clear signals and they were all ignored. When somebody says the anti-matter weapons will be used against the US if something goes on, it doesn't have to be always filler. Others have seen that as a measure of feeling.

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2013, 03:22:51 pm »
 First public TFX concepts from IDEF-2013, posted my medal64 at keypubs:



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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2013, 11:44:00 pm »
It's lookning good but - maybe as expected - not very different to the Japanese ATD-X, the South Korean or Indian concepts.

As such the question remains, WHY again not consolitationg the efforts ?? ... again simply due to politics and industrial independence ??

Anyway it will be interesting to see which one will finally survive and finally fly and even more what kind of engine will be used.
 
Given the size, only two EJ-200, M88 or F414 would fit or for the single engined type a F135 !

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2013, 12:41:35 am »
it's simply a political requirement for the Goverment to look good . Co-operation is acceptable when the co-operating partners shut up and allow the whole credit .

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2013, 11:34:55 am »
"Turkish TFX fighter concept revealed at IDEF"

by Tolga Ozbek
Flight International
5/9/2013

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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-turkish-tfx-fighter-concept-revealed-at-idef-385659/

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Three potential designs for a planned TFX Turkish fighter concept have been shown for the first time at the International Defence Industry Fair in Istanbul, with the programme's current initial design phase due to conclude later this year.

Images depict a single-engined aircraft with and without canards and a twin-engined design, with these having been influenced by discussions between the Turkish air force and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI).

Tolga Ozbek/Tim Bicheno-Brown/Flightglobal

TAI says the initial designs will be assessed against air force requirements during a workshop, with a report to be submitted by Turkey's undersecretary of defence industries by the end of September 2013.

TAI was awarded a contract last year to perform the activity, with the company working with Swedish manufacturer Saab.

Under current plans, the TFX project could lead to the first flight of a Turkish-built fighter in 2023, with the type to potentially be acquired as a replacement for the air force's oldest Lockheed Martin F-16Cs.
 


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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2014, 09:46:49 pm »
On Wikipedia it is mentioned:

"ASELSAN is currently developing a highly advanced AESA radar which will use gallium nitride (GaN) technology for the TFX program." Can someone shed a bit of light on what this "GaN" technology is, how does it work and what are its benefits over other types of radars?  ::)

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2015, 07:06:24 am »
From a September 2014 presentation by TAI.

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2015, 01:30:21 pm »
can somebody explain this slide to me?

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2015, 04:37:39 pm »
can somebody explain this slide to me?


It shows the three design configurations being considered for the TFX program with an F-16 for scale reference. The comments below were obviously not intended to be arrows indicating better performance as you move to the right. It's just another poorly executed slide from a Powerpoint presentation designed by someone who doesn't understand how to communicate information graphically or just isn't very good at it.

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Re: Turkish TFX National Combat Aircraft
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2015, 02:32:15 am »
not to point out that they  practically don't know much about design . When there was this talk on a national trainer aircraft , a goverment minister or some guy as high told the project was feasible because they had the blueprints in a bank safe . Really ! Turns out the Air Force wants to buy Korean planes which seem extremely like the local production , presumably because they are both a Pilatus rip-off or something to that end .

and with the stuff the country goes through the graph seriously might point out the eventual capability F-16 being max and a Chinese clone coming a close second now that Americans would not be able to interfere much . This of course assumes Chinese will not turn over F-22 data . F-16 still rules supreme , right ?