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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2016, 11:25:56 am »
Great find. Didn't realize that Sub-based ABM concepts went back that far.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2016, 04:28:14 am »
There were a few interesting ideas of different deployments of ABM systems at that time (inter-service rivalry).  1967 fits in with SABMIS (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8305.0.html) which according AWST (July 17,1967) was to a initially be a surface based system with eventual submarine launched interceptors. A Polaris based ASAT system was also being pursued as well even earlier (AWST Sep 28, 1964).

The USAF also had proposals to use Minuteman missiles as an ABM system as well (AWST March 31, 1969), even to the point of having C-5s on airborne alert as an ABM system.

However, this is a topic for other threads.  The slide is an interesting find.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2017, 07:46:01 pm »
A couple of very interesting images added to the SDASM's Flickr Commons collection today. The description for the side-view of the model in the photo is incorrect, however, the adjacent photo in the collection with a head on view describes the model as, "Model Aerojet; Plastic Space Plane Date: 07/09/1962".  The name on the model stand for the side-view describes the model as "Aerospace Plane."

As best as I can glean from the two photos of the model, it appears to be mixed-propulsion, with intakes aft along either side, presumably for the air-breathing portion of flight, plus what appears to possibly be provision for retractable canards on the nose.

This design doesn't ring any bells with me, it may even be a nominal representation of an "Aerospace Plane" concept, but I figure many here may have a better idea (if so, moderators please move to the most appropriate topic).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33507549292/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33280381880/


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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2017, 07:52:53 pm »

This design doesn't ring any bells with me, it may even be a nominal representation of an "Aerospace Plane" concept,

It's one of the Convair designs for the aptly-named "Aerospace Plane" program, a USAF program to develop an airbreathing reusable launch system.
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2017, 06:24:57 am »
Unfortunately, the captions for many of the the recently uploaded batch of photos are somewhat screwed up.  For example, there's a sweet pic of an Atlas BGRV lifting off, but it's captioned as a "test rig", a space station concept is captioned as a solar-powered vehicle, and so on.

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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2017, 10:54:51 am »
Below are a number of intriguing photos posted by the San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) Archives at their Flickr site. They belong to the Robert Reedy Collection.

Here is Reedy's brief bio as described by the SDASM:
"Robert Reedy was a native of Amarillo Texas. He attended college in Wichita Kansas, studying aeronautical engineering. On graduation he was quickly snapped up by Stearman Aircraft. During his subsequent career he made stops at Lockheed, Thorp and back to Lockheed where he retired as a vice president of sales. Reedy was involved in the design of several Stearman, Vega and Thorp types, the Lockheed P2V, Little Dipper, Big Dipper, and L-1011..."

Among the photos in the Reedy collection are a number captioned as the Cessna CR-1 (reg. NR/NX 11717), and dated (via the SDASM description for each) as being taken in "Jan 1930". Despite the description and registration number, I have yet to find any other photos of such an aircraft in this specific configuration (enclosed cockpit aft of the wing trailing edge, shoulder-mounted wing, retractable landing gear, registration "11717"). The best information I can find is that after a single harrowing first flight by Clyde Cessna, the aircraft was deemed too dangerous to fly and re-built into the CR-2. Here is a SDASM photo of the Cessna CR-2:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27137787416/


Here is how the Cessna CR-2 is described in the article authored by Bob Hirsch, "Cessna and Air Racing's Golden Age"  (American Aviation Historical Society (AAHS) Journal, Vol. 29 (1984), Page 296, 304), "This is a stretched version of the CR-1 which was about 2 feet, 8 Inches shorter. It Is not known If the CR-1 actually flew or was redesigned during construction. There are no public photos of it."

So, here are the photos in question, might these be photos of the Cessna CR-1 as originally constructed? if so, these may be the only known photos of it prior to its reconstruction into the CR-2. Can anyone confirm?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27169387065/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26563569034/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26565110913/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/26565112283/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/27074429542/
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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2017, 11:50:07 am »
Here's one at the SDASM Flickr site that I can't put a finger on. Perhaps it is related to the Ryan 147 S-2?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33697614023/


Here's a swing-wing (airliner?) concept with the name "National" on the tail. Reminiscent of how the original National Airlines (NAL) used to have "National" on the S-duct of their Boeing 727 fleet and the base of the vertical stab of their two Boeing 747 aircraft.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/33549078134/


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Re: San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive
« Reply #68 on: May 08, 2017, 12:04:16 pm »
Apparently that first one was from 1966.  :o
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